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Dena Ali sits down with Jim Burneka and Nick Magoteaux to discuss her groundbreaking work in first responder mental health. Ali shares her journey from struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts to authoring Hope Out of Darkness (Fire Engineering), a comprehensive book on resilience, peer support, and wellness tailored for the fire service.
As program manager for the First Responder Center for Excellence, Ali develops innovative training and resources that tackle tough, often overlooked topics: organizational culture, psychological safety, and interpersonal relationships. Ali’s candid stories and practical strategies offer a fresh perspective aimed at transforming fire service culture and saving lives.
FRCE Online Trainings: https://firstrespondercenter.org/trainings/
Dena’s book: https://a.co/d/bxWho64
Brothers Helping Brothers Health & Wellness Conference: https://events.brothershelpingbrothers.org/ffhw2025/